Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Catherine the Great

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Right now, there are ethnic Russians, who have only spoken and written the Russian language, suffering an opressive regime in the eastern parts of the Ukraine. The incumbant regime has turned their backs on their brothers and sisters to the east, and have put pressure on them to erase their culture and history. In the name of profit alone, they have sought out closer connections to the West, seeking to sell the national security of Russia in order to enrich their elite, as the average Ukrainian lives the poorest quality of life in the entirety of Europe. Now, they have elected a demon wearing the skin of a Jewish homosexual comedian. He will squeeze them for every drop of blood and every dollar they have.

If we are to be a truly independent country, if we are to be the masters of our own destiny, we must take a stand against NATO today and save the Russians living in the Ukraine from the power structure building on top of them. Will you stand and fight, or will you perish like a dog?



Only friends of Russia, advocates for national sovereignty, NATO haters, and/or weirdos who just want to see Ukrainians die may post in this thread.
Not you? How about Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion?
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The Munich Security conference conducted a survey on Ukrainian's outlook on the war.
89% of persons surveyed responded they would carry on fighting even after getting nuked.

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source: https://securityconference.org/en/publications/munich-security-report-2023/spotlight-ukraine/

Perhaps if Japan had more balls and kept on fighting after getting just two nukes, we would be living in a better world now. But with less cows perhaps : '(
I rated lunacy, but tbf I can see the thought process of someone answering the poll. If the results are "we give up" one would maybe consider that Adolf Putler would be invited to do it. Also once you live in such a martial law environment it's best to err on the side of "slava ukraina!!!" no matter how much you are reassured that the poll is anonymous.



Putler should have used 'o' instead of 'z' to deny the uke's an even more basic shape.
 
When NATO paints a grim picture, it's far worse than what they are actually admitting. They are slowly setting up the narrative that they didn't actually lose when Russia wins, but it was a matter of military industry ineffectiveness. Then they can parade defense executives in front of parliament and congress to explain why they failed so that NATO can shift the blame elsewhere, while also giving the perfect excuse to expand western military budgets even further.
 
Just an update on the current situation if someone was going to the old thread for news and is now here.


All of this is as of now and subject to change at any time
  • Bakhmut is nearly encircled there's only really one road Ukraine can realistically use to get in and out of the city
  • Compounding the last point, Ukraine is extremely short on vehicles and are using civilian cars to move troops and supplies
  • There are indications of ammunition shortages but it's unknown how extensive these are
  • Most of the lend leased major equipment like tanks, missiles, etc are expected to be in country around March
  • Ukraine has been using chemical weapons via drone dropped canisters
  • A fair number of the pro-US eastern European countries are finding out the hard way that sanctions work both ways
The Baltic states are struggling with rampant inflation, and Moldova's government has collapsed
  • It's been confirmed that the pipeline attack was carried out by the US


Those are pretty much the major points. You can check the old thread for sauce on them, but I really don't want to spend at least a couple of hours tracking down each and every point.
 
Putler should have used 'o' instead of 'z' to deny the uke's an even more basic shape.
It was kinda organic how they became symbols, along with "o" and "v", which together form "zov" which in Russian could be translated as "the call". It's the west that focuses solely on the "z" letter, because ruskies are nahtsees and nahtsees have to have their funny sun symbol.

I find those symbols pretty gay tho, since two of these letters aren't even letters of Russian alphabet.

Fuck Ukraine.
In progress.
 
It was kinda organic how they became symbols, along with "o" and "v", which together form "zov" which is Russian could be translated to "the call". It's the west that focuses solely on the "z" letter, because ruskies are nahtsees and nahtsees have to have their funny sun symbol.

I find those symbols pretty gay tho, since two of these letters aren't even letters of Russian alphabet.


In progress.
I believe the focus on Z is due to it being the most prominent letter seen in the first few days when cameras throughout Ukraine captured convoy movements and some of the early fighting. I still find it funny how it's an example of many things that were somehow supposed to be used to vilify Russia (and Russians...) and Russians in turn just adopted it as a symbol of support. A form of memetic warfare.
 
Just an update on the current situation if someone was going to the old thread for news and is now here.


All of this is as of now and subject to change at any time
  • Bakhmut is nearly encircled there's only really one road Ukraine can realistically use to get in and out of the city
  • Compounding the last point, Ukraine is extremely short on vehicles and are using civilian cars to move troops and supplies
  • There are indications of ammunition shortages but it's unknown how extensive these are
  • Most of the lend leased major equipment like tanks, missiles, etc are expected to be in country around March
  • Ukraine has been using chemical weapons via drone dropped canisters
  • A fair number of the pro-US eastern European countries are finding out the hard way that sanctions work both ways
The Baltic states are struggling with rampant inflation, and Moldova's government has collapsed
  • It's been confirmed that the pipeline attack was carried out by the US


Those are pretty much the major points. You can check the old thread for sauce on them, but I really don't want to spend at least a couple of hours tracking down each and every point.
With all this happening. It makes me wounder what the fuck Russia is actually doing? You'd think they would try a second offensive while Ukraine seems to be having shortages and before all the lend leased stuff arrive in Ukraine next month. On top of that they lost Moldova as a tenuous neutral party.

And on the topic of Moldova, of coarse it's a fucking women leading the pro-EU party.
 
They are slowly setting up the narrative that they didn't actually lose when Russia wins, but it was a matter of military industry ineffectiveness.
Russia wont win in a clearcut manner like the way Germany drove from one border of Poland to another during WW2. With the way this war has played out, a drive to the Dneiper would probably be a fantastic result and become a very good natural border for them, though this just means they take on a monstrous task of rebuilding the country they now own. A lot of these regions look like the fucking moon and French experience with the Zone Rouge seems to indicate that this kind of damage takes century to clear.
 
With all this happening. It makes me wounder what the fuck Russia is actually doing? You'd think they would try a second offensive while Ukraine seems to be having shortages and before all the lend leased stuff arrive in Ukraine next month. On top of that they lost Moldova as a tenuous neutral party.

And on the topic of Moldova, of coarse it's a fucking women leading the pro-EU party.
Well they could do that, but they'd have to pull away some of their reserves, which could jeopardize the Bakhmut offensive. Ukraine could try to break the encirclement with a counter attack, so it's likely Russia wants to keep as many reserves as it can there to prevent that. Ukraine will most likely attempt a spring offensive and if that happens and fails (which is probable) then you'll likely see Russia attempting multiple offensives at once. There's also some indication of an offensive in the North from Belarus. Col Macgregor thinks it will be aimed at Kiev, but I think its more likely that it will be between Lviv and Kiev. Mainly because that would largely make it impossible for Ukraine to continue to be supplied from the Polish border, and it's not close enough to Poland to set off any major alarm bells in NATO.
 
The Baltic states are struggling with rampant inflation, and Moldova's government has collapse

While we are at Moldova is there any local from there to confirm one speculation that has been thrown around?
Apparently Moldovans can vote from abroad and vote heavy pro eu government opposite of the local population wants . Also your google reviews of the parliament building is top notch

Government House of Moldova
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With all this happening. It makes me wounder what the fuck Russia is actually doing? You'd think they would try a second offensive while Ukraine seems to be having shortages and before all the lend leased stuff arrive in Ukraine next month.
Yeah, I agree. Russia needed to stop shooting from the hip, while jerking it with the other hand, a year ago. This is just extending the war and it's casualties, for everyone.
 
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