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Due to the amount of people who have significantly learned about this thread, I have to once again remind you (newfags) on what the KiwiFarms is. We are a internet gossip forum if we have a thread on someone it's obvious that we do not have very nice things to say about them. Regardless, if you aren't a whiny little peter then you are welcomed here, but the newcomers here, we observe. On the top (or bottom if you're a mobile fag) there's thread rules, follow them and you'll have an amazing time here. Those who come in with the expectations of changing the thread occupants and regulars minds. Don't. Save yourselves the future humiliation by just being an observer or Lurk. Viv's been known to fabricate and make up claims so take everything with a massive bucket load of salt when referring to her. If you have a problem with her, you can air out issues here rather then shit up the Helluva Hazbin Thread. Follow these rules and you'll have a wonderous time.
Indie Animation is a sphere that people get into in order to showcase their talents and grow beyond their usual measures, most of the times, it's a personal project between friends, hence the name of "Indie Animation" it's supposed to be something you make for fun or for a personal project. But sometimes personal projects can get a little too far, this is what happens when you end up having decades long allegations against you and your personal conduct, this thread serves as a reminder of WHY you shouldn't mix personal drama with your business.
Vivienne Medrano / VivMind / VivziePop / NozzArts / xZoOPhobiAx / SpindleHorse Studios
Her mother is a standard Democrat who likes to complain about bigots on Facebook and claims to be a "proud woke lib and Swiftie" (lol), and is VERY active on Threads, as in terminally online (apple, tree, yadda yadda). She used to be a Spanish teacher, and apparently has some experience with special needs people. She is listed as the owner of Sugarloaf Lawn Care, a lawn care service located in Maryland she used to be the manager of, before buying the company in 2021. She is also said to have volunteered at her local church as a Sunday School teacher. According to Viv, her father is a hardworking man who immigrated in the USA, and her mother had three jobs. Despite claims that she comes from a wealthy background, I haven't found anything pointing towards that.
Viv is the second of five children. First comes her older brother Jorge Medrano, then her younger siblings Ana Gabriela Medrano, Alex Medrano, and another sister named Maritza Medrano. The latter is the one who designed Husk, who looks inspired by her cat named Panda. It also looks like she was quite familiar with Zoophobia. She even changed her Facebook profile picture to Addison back in 2011, before Viv started posting Zoophobia on Tumblr. Interestingly enough, Maritza is also credited as a writer for Hazbin Hotel.
Vivzie claims to have grew up Presbyterian, and questioning early the teaching of the Bible. Like her siblings, she graduated from Urbana High School. She graduated the New York School of Visual Arts in 2014, and took a two weeks summer animation class at the Gobelins, the most prestigious animation school in France. She even made a vlog about it. Despite her loving parents and seemingly normal youth, she claims she had a "traumatic past" and suffered "abuse", something she had to work on after moving to LA.
Info credited to be found by @Meghan Sparkle the Second
ZoophobiaZoophobia was one of the first few Comics Viv had published before working on Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. The premise was that a woman named Cameron Walden was to be sent to a interspecies sanctuary under the pretense of it being a normal school with normal kids. To help as a counsler. However, there's a twist. The academy she was sent to was filled with furries, not just anthro ones, full feral ones. Which causes more issues then not, since Cameron has a deadly fear of animals. Most of the comic was spent in the school with Cameron and some with the other characters.
The furry drama high school simulator series ended up being about the students rather then the main character, and it even got it's own page on the BadWebComics Wikia (A), this is an early example of how people veiwed her work then versus now. In comparison. Most of the criticism was that on par with what most think of it now, to put into perspective here's a post in the section that really is what people think of her works:
Another thing to put into perspective on the Badwebcomics Wikia's interpretation is the section involving Viv's Bio that actually applies to her now.
Unfortunately, like most lolcalfs they end up finding their work being critiqued which led into a bunch of asks being directed towards her which she tried to her credit as she just brushed it off.
Another thing I would like to point out that the site had to, was that she implied that the people she was being criticized by were trolls, which byt the way is the ancient word for any eccentric people to use in order to dissuade any possible criticism. Despite acting like she wasn't bothered about the Badwebcomics Wikia page, but somehow deep down it bothered her so much that to this day anyone (even those who weren't even associated or old enough to know what the hell the site was.) who criticized anything remotely related to her is considered aligned with the "big bad comic wikia site"
As if being a bisexual SJW POC le heckin' valid tumblrina wasn't enough she had to push the bar further with more haram shit. Vivinne Medrano had done what any insane pronouns in bio LGBTQWTFBBQ+ had done and decided to appeal to the "darker side" of fandom, meaning the Proshippers and Sholicons. One character I should mention is the subject of several art peices and a grooming from a German Pedophile who essentially been said to be a Teacher's Assistant. Viv had done four pieces of this character being sodimized or at least selling his body for older men, or being sexually arousing. Despite the age of the character initally being 15 before being bumped up to 17.
Because of the concerns, Viv had decided to address the worries by justifying the fact that the parties were 2 years apart. Which would work if the both of them are in High School together. While not inherently illegal. It's considered a power imbalance and considered very inappropriate for someone like Gustav to enter a relationship while he's currently working at the Academy. Things like this can only be considered a technical rather then a literal example of her defending age gap relationships between someone who initially was older then the target but changed it because it "looked bad".
However, unlike most, this was swept under the rug. Only for people to figure out something worse. Viv had not only continued this behavior, she also drew other things that were considered Shotacon. Viv had drawn two pieces of work involving more Adult on Little Shota/Underage works. This time depicting Major Styx as a pedophile for Damien (His Charge.) while having a woman lust over a child character, and the quoted reblog calling the woman a pedo unironically. The lack of irony and awareness falls flat when you realize this is the same woman who allegedly been accused of ERPing Shotacon with someone who she later backstabbed.
Another tidbit of information that most people wouldn't have known if they actually been around before Hazbin, is that most of her old designs were originally either from old characters she forgotten about, people she beefed with and wanted to fufill her power fantasy with, or just drawings she asked from people close to her. Most of these characters later transferred over to her new series. But not without any problems.
HellaVerseHazbin Hotel is Vivinne Medrano's replacement Zoophobia. After delaying a short for Zoophobia, Viv had started production on Hazbin shortly afterwords. Hazbin Hotel is what happens when you allow the Manatees from the water pit that worked on Family Guy to watch what's "hip with the kids." instead of coming up with their own funny jokes, most of them were straight up lifted or stolen from other sources, such as the ones featured in her Playlist I would be covering shortly. Things are mildly different this time around considering that Viv was wanting to fund a project she intended to gain a auidence with.
Knowing Tumblr, you can pitch a retarded idea and as long as they are woke and inclusive people are willing to pay out of pocket for it, most of the times, people have been scammed out of their hard earned cash and despite the liberals of Tumblr not learning they decided to take interest in a project. Only this time, the project had shown some promise. Viv had hired very talented people (Who are either still working for her or now working for other Indie Projects and Game Franchises.) the community was brought together by the shared efforts of those she promoted if not willingly.
However not all is well in Vivienne Town, and here's the main reason:
Viv had a lot of sinful actions, and since it's natural that her show is catered to redemption, I would basically lay out the sins for you in real time. Viv had been accused of tracing and harassing other people over the most basic of things you'd see in CreepshowArt/HopelessPeaches Drama Corners. Instead of apologizing and doing better she decided to double down and make a sockpuppet account as an attempt at pretending this person was a victim of a abuse by the hands of this so called Dollcreep. While theirs nothing more to say involving the Hellvaverse there's a lot to say in regards to the people she left in the dust in order to become rich and famous.
DollCreep / Jordyn Fischer / Jones
Dollcreep otherwise known as Jordyn Fischer or Jones was a former friend of Vivienne who essentially sold four characters to Viv, one of which was named JiJi (Otherwise known as JayJay). JiJi was a part of a unlicensed agreement that Viv had that Jordyn had agreed with Viv on. Vivienne was to give credit to the character being used in any context as long as the credit was received. Viv had obviously stepped on this agreement which led into the callout post. However this slap fight proceeded into a crybully tard fest on Viv's end because of the aforementioned post.
You can help by NOT interacting or going off platform to find them. They have suffered enough at the hands of one retard. Please do not try and doxx them or harass them, if you have any extra information regarding Dollcreep you can share it in this thread. Otherwise you can shut up and scroll past. Please do NOT share any doxxes of people we don't care about, seriously. - @Dr. Arinsu
The beginning of this Art Commentary Drama was this post alone:
Let's just say Viv's response after being outed was once again "I didn't want to do this but I had no choice but to." And other shit that we've heard from Fake Youtuber Apologies.
However, the people who she ran by were not named, either out of curtesy or just because they don't exist. If anything we learned from #MeToo was, that no matter what, once a woman comes forth another should too. In fact that's how Harvey Weinstein's victims got known. But because Viv hails from a generation that all you have to do to cancel someone is by falsely accusing them of Rape, Murder, Zoophilla or even Pedophilla. Considering that no one really has a frontal lobe they'd blindly agree with what Person A said, because who wants to believe a child/animal predator?
If you're wondering why I am currently saying this, it's because Viv, being the person she is, decided to accuse someone who barely even had any evidence of WRONGDOING. Remember rallying personal armies against people who just want credit for their True and Honest Work is a very shitty and scummy thing to do. Even if they are pushy you still give credit.
But I suppose you don't understand why it's important to give credit to where it's due to artists, it's because these people have pour their heart and soul into these works, and for people to steal these things mean you have no regards for people's time they spent on a art piece.
There's something I intentionally left out regarding Viv's LARP Posting/Schizoposting, essentially she claims she had plans to sue Dollcreep. Which by the way did not happen, the main reason is several in fact. Anyone who is a lawyer or can correct me on this can come down. But the main reason is establishing ownership of the character. The way I see it, DollCreep had sold the character to Viv, on the grounds she credited him. But the main problem is this, this would be grounds for a suit because there's no legal papers binding the contract meaning Viv doesn't HAVE to credit him. But there's another thing she hadn't taken into account. Because this lolsuit is such a waste of time, even Judge Judy would find it immensely retarded and call both parties stupid. Meaning the case would be thrown out. Not to mention the court fees which if anything is to go by how she had most of the Pilot VA's fundraise her own damn show, she cannot even afford to pay out of pocket to afford a decent Lawyer for the lolsuit against Jordyn, meaning the threats of suits was just a way for her to intimidate someone into silence, which won't be the last thing to ever happen.
After this, the whole harassment of Dollcreep landed with Viv Stans and some random people who basically doesn't have the right to harass others or claim they are this person because some random wetback told you so, once again proving to everyone that Jews aren't the only stereotype on how they lie. It should go without being said that if you blindly believe what a femoid says about someone regardless if you have the proof or not, then you are a retard. Point blank and simple.No one should go after people regardless if it is true or not because you actually need to have the proper evidence and not some random tumblrina's take, Viv has not provided evidence of abuse other then being told to CREDIT someone she paid out of pocket for. If you were to tell me that this was over png/jpgs I wouldn't have guessed because with the amount of "She stole this!" and "He stole that!" you would've assumed they were arguing over something completely different. As it stands this isn't the first time in a community where people make a big deal over something like this and it's sure as hell won't be the last time.
Viv had also had some issues with people calling her out all the dang time, it's gotten to the point she has to justify why she called out Dollcreep, and it's different each time, the one time she did it was to "Help victims and not make it about her." but when confronted about it, it's now all about me, me, me.... Which actually sounds familiar now.Viv's unable to understand that people don't want to hear what she has to say because she proven time and time again that she doesn't really have the evidence to claim anything when she could barely provide context to her claims. Most of the claims stems from what she herself and Doll had done in their time as friends. Meaning she was self-incriminating herself as well.
It doesn't make sense for someone who is into the same shit to accuse someone blindly of being a pedo when they themselves had committed the same crime. You don't get brownie points because you outed someone who has the same kinks as you, if anything you're a retard who requested a personal army.
The same exact thing happened during the zoosadist leaks where the main person who called those freaks out had to say they were "better then them" when in reality, no. You may have not brutally murdered and sodimized animals, but you are still a disgusting human being. Viv's no better then people who do this type of troll shielding.
Dollcreep had also mentioned that Viv had made him immortalized in the show permananetly as some sort of Snake, which again proves to me that she still has the mindset of a LiveJournal User that literally cannot let her grudges go. Even if it's for the sake of maintaining some peace.
Back to the notice of this section, the main reason why I issued out a statement is due to the severity Viv had taken her personal army request. The horrid behavior that led to this sitewide harassment had landed Jordyn a trip to the hospital. Which isn't the first time someone who was the target of her fanbase. Jordyn had received such harassing messages that it led to the eventual attempt. What proceeded was the most heartless response ever.
Instead of realizing her fanbase went too far, she had decided to tweet this as a response to hearing DollCreep's admission and eventual recovery in the hospital. If your response to hearing someone you ONCE had care for was "Karma is so awesome, aw man. <3" then you are the most deranged person I have ever had the displeasure of ever not knowing. I know I sound emotional right now, but it shouldn't really be said on how horrible this response was.
No I'm sorry, nothing. The main point is, Viv supposedly cares for people, of all kinds. Which would include people with mental disorders, and of course depression too. But her way of handling it, suggests it's some sort of joke. To quote someone in the Save A Fox Thread.
The point of the matter is, even if someone did something wrong it shouldn't be socially acceptable to harass people, the worst case scenario is death but the other scenario is the outcome people don't look for, this is the main reason why I advise not to seek out anyone related to Viv, even if you want closure and understanding of people. Even if it's not classified as Harassment its something people shouldn't have to live through let alone knocking down their door to ask about someone who they in all honesty won't want to be reminded of this person. In all honesty, Dollcreep is just a mere footnote in the sea of people who Viv had fucked over and ruined the reputation of. And like I said, won't ever be the last.
HelluvaVerse Critic Community Derangement SyndromeAs with any community, there is a side of it where it has to deal with criticism. The point of criticism is to provide the creator with much needed help. The end goal is to try and make sure the criticism helps improve the final product, but as we seen before with Viv's nuclear reaction to the Zoophobia Critique.
As with most situations there is a do and don't to them, and here's the folllowing.
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w as you can tell these are highly reasonable dos and don'ts. Well for someone like Vivienne, none of these are good. The first start of reacting to something that wasn't serious was the "My name is Caine and I am your bitch" drama, Caine is a character from Viv's former associate (not friend, friend implies they were close to some capacity which in all honesty is charitable given that the person who owned the character did work for the pilot.) Gooseworx who is behind the Gen Alpha Brainrot, The Amazing Digitial Circus produced on Glitch Productions, The Amazing Digital Circus (TADC as we are calling it now.)Is a show that is what I call Phycological Horror. The show is inspired by "I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream" and generated the most biggest fandom since Welcome Home, but what really spurred this stupid drama was the fact Viv had decided to complain about it publically.
The meme was formatted in a "If Blank was Written By VivizePop" fashion which is just an excuse to make any media swear a lot. These are shitposts not meant to be taken seriously but obviously she HAD to respond and flip her lid over it. Viv had claimed it was distasteful to make a meme based on a friends "Show" as a way to get back at her, despite said friend wasn't even publically defending her.
If someone you considered a friend isn't speaking on your personal drama then obviously they don't care as much as you do.
Viv tries to justfiy her poor humor as being influenced by other shows, which in all honesty is funny because there was an episode dedicated South Park making fun of people for overusage of swearing and relying heavily on swearing as a crutch for a jokje, though it's not stated outwords, it was plainly obvious.
When your humor is inspired by a mixture of things that don't fit with the show, that means your humor clashes with the tone of what you were trying to go after. Viv has this problem with her works, and even to this day doesn't recognize the sheer stupidity of the words "I was inspired by..." is to her.
Viv has a tendacy to go after anyone who dares utter a single negative phrase of her "magnum opus shows" either by sending sex pests and or herself, she always has to constantly bring up her sad home life or her life that led up to this warranting a back and forth between people who in all honesty just want to see her improve.
Half of the people who are criticizing this women's work are former fans, some even said they were fans and given a reason on why they don't support Viv, usually because of multiple reasons, but to VivziePop it's seen as a major disrespect and you being a filthy traitor, more worse then those who criticized her over on BadWebComics Wikia! Keep that in mind if you ever stumble across a Critical Post made by someone whose knee deep into her shows, it's not because they are A-Loggers, they are Former Fans who wasted their time supporting and defending someone who doesn't deserve the praise. If she actively pursues against these people and brushes them off as trolls it's an old Lolcow trick to hopefully sway the narrative that these people are just le heckin' bigotted trolls that we do NOT stand by. Another example of keeping the people who have yet to see any bad doings with her. Or her circle to keep them tethered to her for as long as she can.
Viv's Orbiters
You can help by archiving their posts and laughing at their antics in the thread. Reminder to always archive anything and everything most of whose within this sphere is prone to DFE, and if you suspect they might DFE, please do NOT announce it within this thread alone. It gives them more chances to delete the offending posts, when you could've just dumped the links into a archiving site or simply just screenshotted it, though a local archive link would be better to not have them denounce the validity of the screenshot.
There's a few people in the VivzieVerse that actually are the most unhinged of them all, most fans within this space are oftentimes predators who gain the respect of kids online with the cutesy appeal of a hot topic preteen, but the problem is, most of these people are reoccurring in Viv's Orbit, some of which are constantly seen in Screenshots provided in this thread or the Multi-Media Thread of Hazbin as a whole. The first person I am going to talk about is DaniDraws, a person who constantly won't shut the hell up about anything. DaniDraws is known for their obsession with Stolitz and posting unfunny yet retarded strawmans to own the Antis, while accusing critics of being pedophile, children diddlers while being friends with a 35 Year Old Woman who along with a 18+ FurFag tried to debate what "CNC" is to a 14 year old.
Because of Dani being a retarded Hazbin Hotel Stan, she's also drawn shit that falls under the category of CSEM (her words not mine) and are considered obscene by USA Law.
Alongside this, Dani is a rape lover, who loves drawing Rape art. Despite labelling her hurtcore rape art featuring a character whose obviously a victim of SA and had implied sex with a Donkey according to some critics. (See: Donkey Show.)
If accusations of Shotacon isn't enough to tell you what kind of person DaniDraws is, then obviously this body pillow drawing of a 17 year old Octavia would prove to you. Alongside this, she also drew obviously 18 year old characters with the underage art. To be clear the Loona/Octavia art is considered pedophilla because Loona is 22 (For furry baiters) and Octavia is 17. Considering Dani's obsession with underage artwork I can only imagine the "interaction" is anything but.
Honorable mention also goes to AyyLmao, a former YouTube Commetator turned Viv Shill. Who owns the r/hazbin subreddit and is the definition of sloptent. Not much Lulz is uncovered other then he harassed a minor over a rewrite of Masquerade and is not a verifiable new source for VivziePop, he's almost as verifiable as r/youtubedrama. Oh and he also removes Comments as seen as this history where someone commented about the show and got into a retarded slapfight. With a equally retarded Stan.
Here's some information regarding the Statutory rape laws and explanations regarding both it and LoliShota.
Blatant Hypocrisy
[REWRITE IN PROGRESS. SOME SCREENSHOTS ARE GONNA BE INTACT.]Racism + Anti-Semitism
Detractors
Hunicast and The Various Creeps and Weirdos
Proshipper vs Anti Movement
Conclusion
Hazbin Hotel and the people who surround it, are prime examples of why you shouldn't be so eager to be famous. Because once you create something that attracts the most unhinged of fandom spaces. You attract people who will have a lot to say about your works. Because once you post something to the internet, it gives people a free pass to critique your work, it's up to you as the creator to do whatever with the information you had, at the end of the day people who criticize your work are people who want to see your work improve, not some random person a decade ago who in all honesty doesn't know you exist anymore. Blaming those who moved on from your work as the sole factor in critiques goes to show that you do care about what others say and do with your work, and instead of growing and learning from those mistakes you continue to live in a endless downward spiral of a year no one cares about except for Gen Z's who desperately wished they were young again. Its honestly sad to see someone fall down endlessly and not actually get it through their head that the log off button is clearly a button away. But however you may take it Vivienne you said it so yourself, and I will leave this thread off with what she said exactly.
SOCIALS
Email: vivzanimation@yahoo.com
Tumblrs:
Main - https://archive.is/Sx8JI
Portfolio - https://archive.is/zyRrv
ZoophobiaComics - https://archive.ph/C4ZrZ
ZoophobiaWebcomic - https://archive.ph/xYoI3
YouTube: https://preservetube.com/channel/UCzfyYtgvkx5mLy8nlLlayYg
Old YouTube PL: https://archive.ph/Su9TZ
DeviantArt: https://archive.ph/pPOYw
Archived Posts | TBU
"The Apology" Tumblr Post: https://archive.is/lX57Y
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