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Tragon Dirtle · 2025-07-21T19:19:30-0400

Mound Dweller said:
People give dead lizzie too much credit I think, yeah there's all those anecdotes about what a strong-willed old matriarch she was, but in her many decades of rule what did she actually do? I don't mean "had a strong word with so and so" or "gave a stern look at whatshisface which totally made him change his position", I mean stuff that actually matters that wasn't just in people's heads because it sounds better that way.
Probably going on TV after her ex daughter in law died? That's just basic PR, massively overrated.

As for her son; they're are all little eccentricities in the grand scheme of things, it's nothing especially challenging to the way of doing things which is why it's tolerated or even encouraged. And if anything, it's an advantage for globohomo to have a pro muzzie kang knocking around, fits right in with the general agenda afterall.
Maybe William will rock the boat a bit- nah who am I kidding, he gets bossed badly enough in public around by his wife, he's got no chance in the back against the private secretaries.

Well that's just it - you think that he's a lucky advantage to the independently existing global agenda, but how do you know? the aristocracy has unbroken lineages going back over a thousand years, they will have seen this shit coming and intervened if they wanted to, which they don't - Boris is from one of those families, the Fawcetts of East Anglia, and he used his chance to bring in the boriswave. There was that photo of the Queen on her own while he partied that could have easily have toppled him if the media had dragged it out - but they didn't. Why not? Why wasn't the Queen personally upset by having to self-isolate at her husband's funeral while the prime minister got hammered? How can a flourishing agenda exist indepedently of the order that flourished before it unless they are the same thing?

Plus, why would they let us know about what they've changed? from what we do know, we know that Elizabeth and Margaret maintained a friendship after the prime minister position and the queen broke protocol to go to her funeral, and Maggie was the one to sell off most of the social contract and support structure. We know from the Panama papers that she constantly interferes in laws so that they don't apply to the royal family and they don't have to pay tax. But the Panama papers were leaked. Why would they just tell us what they've done if it's not in the interest of the public and would upset us?

teriyakiburns · 2025-07-21T19:20:49-0400

HairyBadger said:
I think Channel 4 were threatened with doing actual journalism and not activism, but hey ho.

C4 used to do actual journalism. Their documentary "Islam, The Untold Story" was revelatory, and undercut the entire foundational myth of islam.

Mound Dweller · 2025-07-21T19:27:13-0400

Tragon Dirtle said:
Well that's just it - you think that he's a lucky advantage to the independently existing global agenda, but how do you know? the aristocracy has unbroken lineages going back over a thousand years, they will have seen this shit coming and intervened if they wanted to, which they don't - Boris is from one of those families, the Fawcetts of East Anglia, and he used his chance to bring in the boriswave. There was that photo of the Queen on her own while he partied that could have easily have toppled him if the media had dragged it out - but they didn't. Why not? Why wasn't the Queen personally upset by having to self-isolate at her husband's funeral while the prime minister got hammered? How can a flourishing agenda exist indepedently of the order that flourished before it unless they are the same thing?

Plus, why would they let us know about what they've changed? from what we do know, we know that Elizabeth and Margaret maintained a friendship after the prime minister position and the queen broke protocol to go to her funeral, and Maggie was the one to sell off most of the social contract and support structure. We know from the Panama papers that she constantly interferes in laws so that they don't apply to the royal family and they don't have to pay tax. But the Panama papers were leaked. Why would they just tell us what they've done if it's not in the interest of the public and would upset us?

Well that's the thing with soft power, it's all very soft, it's nothing that isn't inside of people's heads and it isn't anything that ever stands up to actual power; the "dies in a car crash in a Paris tunnel" kind, but I don't buy into that one either.
If you replace "the aristocrats" with "jews" or "lizard people" you get the same thing, yeah it can "make sense" and has plenty of ???s attached but IMO none of it is real. That's why Elizabeth's uncle had to abdicate and it's why Charles had to marry a virgin in the first place.

Tragon Dirtle · 2025-07-21T19:34:52-0400

Mound Dweller said:
IMO none of it is real

But the boriswave is real. I don't mean it in the sense of they're trying to replace white people because we're white - I mean it in the sense that undercutting the middle class like this creates a ownership class and a slave class, which is justified with religious rhetoric from Islam, just like in Dubai and Saudi Arabia. Also, there's no proof of lizard people and the jews wouldn't be able to orchestrate something this big precisely because they've been forced to move around so much, but who hasn't? who has had a stable power base for over a thousand years that until WW2 covered the majority of the world and still does, but by another country that they have a 'special relationship' with? A lot of the american upper class and the british upper class are intermarried; Boris Johnson's family is again, which is why he was born in New York.

If aristocrats had no real power left they'd have been pushed out of the way by the new money by now, and we wouldn't have ended up with David Cameron and Boris Johnson as prime ministers in the last decade.

Mound Dweller · 2025-07-21T19:53:02-0400

Tragon Dirtle said:
But the boriswave is real. I don't mean it in the sense of they're trying to replace white people because we're white - I mean it in the sense that undercutting the middle class like this creates a ownership class and a slave class, which is justified with religious rhetoric from Islam, just like in Dubai and Saudi Arabia. Also, there's no proof of lizard people and the jews wouldn't be able to orchestrate something this big precisely because they've been forced to move around so much, but who hasn't? who has had a stable power base for over a thousand years that until WW2 covered the majority of the world and still does, but by another country that they have a 'special relationship' with? A lot of the american upper class and the british upper class are intermarried; Boris Johnson's family is again, which is why he was born in New York.

If aristocrats had no real power left they'd have been pushed out of the way by the new money by now, and we wouldn't have ended up with David Cameron and Boris Johnson as prime ministers in the last decade.

Oh what you're talking about is something else IMO, it's less the result of exerted power as much as it is a somewhat inevitable momentum created by a system that doesn't really have anyone pulling the levers, you give "them" too much credit; hierarchy is something that emerges as naturally as mushrooms in a fairy circle or flies to shit.
Yeah it's real, but that doesn't make it in any way by design, just consequence, something entirely beyond the reach of whoever the current royal poodle in chief is.

Tragon Dirtle · 2025-07-21T20:07:27-0400

Mound Dweller said:
Oh what you're talking about is something else IMO, it's less the result of exerted power as much as it is a somewhat inevitable momentum created by a system that doesn't really have anyone pulling the levers, you give "them" too much credit; hierarchy is something that emerges as naturally as mushrooms in a fairy circle or flies to shit.
Yeah it's real, but that doesn't make it in any way by design, just consequence, something entirely beyond the reach of whoever the current royal poodle in chief is.

I agree that hierarchy is inevitable, but if someone or a particular lineage has maintained their position at the top for over a thousand years maybe they have a measure of control over what is happening? and are responsible for it? I don't think they have full control, but it's like when Boris wrote columns for both outcomes of the brexit vote: they have a contingency plan to stay on top in every situation, and are actively selling out the native population to stay on top.
You have people on the left supporting Islam (Gaza, poor oppressed muslims, tranny muslim larp) and the right (based attitudes towards women, andrew tate, dubai money cars etc) so the way to stay on top is to support Islam. King Charles has literally talked about Islam as a 'thread of wisdom' going back through history to Ancient Egypt and he did the video to announce the 'Great Reset' economic plan that the WEF came up with:

'Islamic finance' operates on a slave class and an ownership class and in places like Saudi Arabia all of the ownership class are basically related to the Royal Family, just like the aristocracy are to the King.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/king-reads-quran-life-charles-26779320

If they are making the decisions to transition to an Islamic model of finance, and to bring in hoards of third worlders, then they are making those decisions and that does mean it is by design. What do you mean by design if not people making decisions that benefit them and allow themselves to stay in power?

Mound Dweller · 2025-07-21T20:26:00-0400

Tragon Dirtle said:
I agree that hierarchy is inevitable, but if someone or a particular lineage has maintained their position at the top for over a thousand years maybe they have a measure of control over what is happening? and are responsible for it? I don't think they have full control, but it's like when Boris wrote columns for both outcomes of the brexit vote: they have a contingency plan to stay on top in every situation, and are actively selling out the native population to stay on top.
You have people on the left supporting Islam (Gaza, poor oppressed muslims, tranny muslim larp) and the right (based attitudes towards women, andrew tate, dubai money cars etc) so the way to stay on top is to support Islam. King Charles has literally talked about Islam as a 'thread of wisdom' going back through history to Ancient Egypt and he did the video to announce the 'Great Reset' economic plan that the WEF came up with:

'Islamic finance' operates on a slave class and an ownership class and in places like Saudi Arabia all of the ownership class are basically related to the Royal Family, just like the aristocracy are to the King.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/king-reads-quran-life-charles-26779320
If they are making the decisions to transition to an Islamic model of finance, and to bring in hoards of third worlders, then they are making those decisions and that does mean it is by design.

Well that's the thing, lineage is just another way of saying it was already determined ahead of time by circumstance, it wasn't a plan it was simply inevitable.
That's not me being a Calvinist and subscribing to predestination; it's merely an observation of cause and effect, in a butterfly wing flaps and hurricanes but with authority sort of way.

Tragon Dirtle said:
What do you mean by design if not people making decisions that benefit them and allow themselves to stay in power?

It isn't a conscious effort, that's where I disagree strongly with the New World Order conspiracy types, yeah "they" want us all slurping bugfood with barcodes on our foreheads, but that's because the system "wants" it, not individuals. This is a silly meme video the expands on the concept ("them" in this context being the momentum itself):

Anyway we're getting into some real Alex Jones shit and it's all very anti-Greggs coded, feel free to @ me somewhere else if you like.

Tragon Dirtle · 2025-07-21T20:44:21-0400

Okay I guess I agree with the gist of that video but it is still just a trollface meme? I just think that the 'system' has an ownership class, and a large chunk of that ownership class happens to be related: Phillip and Elizabeth were cousins; Charles and Diana were distant cousins; even Charles and Camilla are even more distant cousins. The immediate aftermath of the industrial revolution was when the british aristocracy married a bunch of american heiresses - outsiders were finally allowed in, to stay on top financially. You could probably make an american family tree with the american upper class connections if you had the inclination. Why wouldn't they work together to stay on top now, if they're all a big family? That doesn't mean they control everything that happens on a micro scale, but it does mean they do whatever they can whatever situation they're in to stay on top, and make long term decisions as much as possible, which long term immigration since the 50s is. Also, not to bring that up again but of course Charles is distantly related to Mohammed, as all the ruling classes of most countries intermarry at some point. So he is probably related to the rulers of most islamic countries some how, even if it's even more distantly.

https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/dollar-princesses/

clipartfan92 · 2025-07-21T20:53:15-0400

Double-decker bus crashes into bridge in Manchester
The Telegraph (archive.ph)
By Telegraph Reporters
2025-07-21 23:16:00GMT

Emergency services were called to the scene at just after 3pm on Monday Credit: MEN Media

A bus crash in Greater Manchester has left 15 people in hospital.

North West Ambulance Service declared a major incident shortly after emergency services attended the crash scene at the junction of Barton Road and Trafford Road in Eccles at 3pm on Monday.

Police, paramedics, 10 ambulances and an air ambulance were dispatched to the scene. The major incident status was stood down at 4.22pm, the ambulance service said.

One person is reported to be in a critical condition, and two have been left with serious injuries. Transport bosses have launched an immediate investigation.

It emerged on Monday night that the bus was not on its usual route.

Vernon Everitt, the transport commissioner for Greater Manchester, said: “First and foremost, our thoughts are with everyone on board the bus. Our absolute focus has been on supporting emergency services in their response, with some people treated at the scene and some taken to hospital.

“An immediate and urgent investigation into the circumstances is under way, and we are working closely with the investigation team at Greater Manchester Police and the bus operator, Stagecoach.

Credit: kiernanmb/X

One witness told the Manchester Evening News: “I could just hear screaming coming from the top of the bus.”

Another nearby resident told the newspaper: “I thought ‘what’s going on?’ so I came out, and there were ambulances and police cars just flying down the road.

“You could see the bus straight away. I believe it was coming through from the Trafford side and it looks like it’s come right through. I was shocked but not surprised, as this is the third time this has happened. Another bus and a lorry have done it. You feel for the people on the bus.”

Stacey Morley, who lives next to the scene of the crash, told the BBC it was the “third or fourth time” she had seen a bus crash into the same canal bridge.

“It was horrific, I’m still in shock,” she said. “I just feel sorry for the people and their families.”

Szymon Hundz told the broadcaster that he said his girlfriend saw the bus go under the bridge and “two people fall out from the top floor onto the ground”.

Mr Hundz said: “It was a really loud explosion sound.

“We rushed down to bring chairs and water and stuff for people, we were trying to find any medical supplies from the neighbours while paramedics weren’t there.”

He said he witnessed one man have a seizure after the crash, and “lots of people with bleeding heads”.

Ten emergency ambulances were dispatched to the site of the crash Credit: MEN Media

A spokesman for the ambulance service said: “At 3.06pm North West Ambulance Service received a call in relation to a bus collision on Barton Lane, Eccles, and declared a major incident shortly afterwards.

“The trust dispatched a number of resources, including 10 emergency ambulances, advanced paramedics, our Hazard Area Response Team and colleagues from North West Air Ambulance. The first resource arrived on time at 3.10pm.

“North West Ambulance Service treated 15 patients, who were all taken to Salford Royal or Manchester Royal Infirmary hospitals.”

The bridge, which is just 11ft and 6 inches high, has become somewhat of an accident hotspot.

In 2023 a double decker bus with no passengers on board had its roof damaged when it crashed into the same bridge, while three people were hurt in another crash at the same spot in 2020.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said the force was also responding to the collision, and urged people to avoid the area because of road closures currently in place.

Transport for Greater Manchester said the double-decker bus was a 100 service in operation at the time of the crash, adding that they had received reports of a double-decker bus crashing into a bridge.

“Our absolute priority right now is supporting the emergency response and the people who were on board,” a spokesman said.

James X Maxwell · 2025-07-21T22:53:09-0400

Gregis · 2025-07-22T00:10:25-0400

Mound Dweller said:
in her many decades of rule what did she actually do?

Didn't she dissolve the Australian parliament once in the 70s?

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