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I've been rewatching SG-1 recently. Still comfy.
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From what I've seen, they're developed by a Polish studio named CreativeForge, who did Hard West
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I liked the earlier seasons of the show, have yet to finish the last two of SG-1 and anything of Atlantis post-Season One, but it's been long enough that I might come around to it soon.
The problem as I see it is that the series ran on for too long without enough creative input to keep it interesting, and the choices they made ran opposite to my personal tastes. It suffered from the problem facing most sci-fi shows: humans start on the low tier (the most entertaining time), but after you give them too many victories they become ruler of all they survey, seemingly without any efforts made by the aliens to stay ahead or advance further. By Season 9 they owned pretty much everything and all the aliens secretly quake in their boots at the mere sight of them, so what's there to enjoy?
The Gua'Uld hit their strides in Apophis and Anubis. By the time Baal rolled around he felt like a lame duck by comparison. There was little sense of superiority and uncontrolled menace, so every time they showed up became somewhat eye-rolling.
The Replicators got worse every time a new piece of lore was added to them. They're some alien god's toy gone wrong? Of all the forms they desire to obtain, they go with humans? There's no benefit to that, and they lose the novelty of being indestructible spider Voltrons.
The Asgard started off strong, then proceeded to...do nothing. Just lose everything and be done with it. Great...
There's more, but those were the main points that stick out at the time of posting. It just lost a lot of the exploratory magic of the earlier seasons and became mundane and formulaic. Visit new-world-which-is-just-another-world-of-people-wearing-medieval-clothing-because-that's-all-the-props-department-of-other-shows-could-spare-them, write a unique and convoluted problem, solve it by the episode's end, done. Repeat ad nauseum.
The problem as I see it is that the series ran on for too long without enough creative input to keep it interesting, and the choices they made ran opposite to my personal tastes. It suffered from the problem facing most sci-fi shows: humans start on the low tier (the most entertaining time), but after you give them too many victories they become ruler of all they survey, seemingly without any efforts made by the aliens to stay ahead or advance further. By Season 9 they owned pretty much everything and all the aliens secretly quake in their boots at the mere sight of them, so what's there to enjoy?
The Gua'Uld hit their strides in Apophis and Anubis. By the time Baal rolled around he felt like a lame duck by comparison. There was little sense of superiority and uncontrolled menace, so every time they showed up became somewhat eye-rolling.
The Replicators got worse every time a new piece of lore was added to them. They're some alien god's toy gone wrong? Of all the forms they desire to obtain, they go with humans? There's no benefit to that, and they lose the novelty of being indestructible spider Voltrons.
The Asgard started off strong, then proceeded to...do nothing. Just lose everything and be done with it. Great...
There's more, but those were the main points that stick out at the time of posting. It just lost a lot of the exploratory magic of the earlier seasons and became mundane and formulaic. Visit new-world-which-is-just-another-world-of-people-wearing-medieval-clothing-because-that's-all-the-props-department-of-other-shows-could-spare-them, write a unique and convoluted problem, solve it by the episode's end, done. Repeat ad nauseum.
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From what you've written, I think you might like Atlantis more, even though it has its own replicators, because hey at least did something creative with them. SG1 post season 9 is... meh. The budget is obviously lower. There's a lot less location filming and a much bigger reliance on sound stages. They use the same, redressed "castle with stairs and market square" set in just about every episode and cut the lighting budget severely; Stargate Command went from being lit like a movie set, with lots of fills and detail lights, to being, well, a mid-budget TV show, with the bare minimum of flat, dull lighting that leaves half the set in shadow. Plot-wise, they spend a lot of time stuck in story meanders, in between rushed plot-dumps about the Ancients. It has some good episodes and a lot of great character moments - the finale is especially great - but it just didn't feel as good as the previous seasons.
The real problem I have with it is summed up with two words: The Ori. Whether it was SyFy, or whether it was just their own production team, someone decided that they needed a new Big Bad to carry the season arcs. They had a whole galaxy of broken empires and political intrigues to explore, with the power vacuum left by the collapse of the System Lords and the banishment of Anubis throwing up all sors of interesting possibilities, but they retreated to their comfort zone instead. It was essentially a soft reboot.
Enjoyable, but ultimately disappointing.
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It's been a long time since I saw a portion of it, but I enjoyed the power reset that Atlantis introduced. I remember the Wratihs becoming underwhelming - they went from the new insidious horror of the unknown to campy water vampires that still die to the same P90s that everyone used. Still, it's on my eventual watchlist.
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The only episode I really hate is Heroes , the two parter from the seventh season. Frasier dying I had no problem with, but the ghoulish shit with the camera crew just didn't jive with the feel of the show.
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Funnily enough. I saw this about a week earlier. In 2019 he looked unrecognizable, so seeing him lose some of that weight is definitely good.
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I was never really into SG-1 but one of my smoking buddies in the day was a military nerd who was all up on it.
I certainly didn't follow it passionately, but between him having it on a lot and other "well, the show I want to watch is on in an hour, might as well leave SG-1 on until then" I can't say it's ever pissed me off or anything.
There were a few eps I totally didn't get like one about the guy in a diner because it was some metaphysical dimensional thing or something, but I assume that's more because I randomly floated in and out.
I certainly didn't follow it passionately, but between him having it on a lot and other "well, the show I want to watch is on in an hour, might as well leave SG-1 on until then" I can't say it's ever pissed me off or anything.
There were a few eps I totally didn't get like one about the guy in a diner because it was some metaphysical dimensional thing or something, but I assume that's more because I randomly floated in and out.
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God are the Ori boring. Their character is always sanctimonious. Now, you can argue that the System Lords all had the same personality too--and you would be wrong because Hathor definitely has her own personality--but they were theatrical about it. Apophis works because he gives Teal'C a personal stake in the conflict and a lot of that character drama is because of his imposing, yet petty nature. That's the kernel of humanity the System Lords had; feudal lords wielding technology they didn't really understand. The Ori did not have this dimension to them and every story about them is Convert or Die. And the Ori are cheaters on top of it, which make the Ancients even bigger lazier assholes than they generally are.
Really, the series ended when they killed off the Replicators AND most of the System Lords, leaving only Baal. Then the network demanded more episodes so they panicked and padded out the last few seasons and used the Farscape leads to boost ratings. And didn't really know how to use them. Vala is sexy and all, but she was much better in the alternate universe where she was Hathor 2.0 instead of this Han Solo character we got.
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Been rewatching SG-1 on US DVDs. The local sellers try to rake a profit on R2 DVDs, so the US Collectors' Set turned out to be half the price.
Haven't seen the show since it aired in my neck of the woods, and they never aired the last few seasons for whatever reason. I don't recall too much about things S4 onwards though.
I'm in the middle of the third season at the moment, the show feels to build upon itself, using some episodes for setups, while others use materials from episodes that weren't setups originally. SG-1 uses continuity a lot better than e.g. majority of Star Trek. A lot of the worse episodes seem to get carried by the actors' synergy and chemistry in the end, though nothing could've saved S1's Emancipation. That episode was just bad.
The show seems to meander a bit though. While I don't mind the planet-of-the-week stuff, the show has had too many SGC-gets-invaded episodes by this point already. The show's constantly changing little by little, but I'm afraid that's going to be a double-edged sword, where the changes end up kicking out the good stuff they've got going.
Haven't seen the show since it aired in my neck of the woods, and they never aired the last few seasons for whatever reason. I don't recall too much about things S4 onwards though.
I'm in the middle of the third season at the moment, the show feels to build upon itself, using some episodes for setups, while others use materials from episodes that weren't setups originally. SG-1 uses continuity a lot better than e.g. majority of Star Trek. A lot of the worse episodes seem to get carried by the actors' synergy and chemistry in the end, though nothing could've saved S1's Emancipation. That episode was just bad.
The show seems to meander a bit though. While I don't mind the planet-of-the-week stuff, the show has had too many SGC-gets-invaded episodes by this point already. The show's constantly changing little by little, but I'm afraid that's going to be a double-edged sword, where the changes end up kicking out the good stuff they've got going.
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Having watched all of Stargate in the past (except the prequel miniseries), I found this retrospective series quite interesting. It goes into a lot of details about the actual production and behind-the-scenes happenings of the show and its production, highly recommended. This video is a compilation of smaller videos, the shorter individual parts are on the channel too.
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I liked SG:U, and I'm sick of pretending otherwise. It was a unique thing to setting, the characters were good; the stories were good, and the action was good. It lacked the campiness of the rest of Stargate for sure, but it was still good.
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Stargate was one of those shows that would air during the hours everyone was at school or at work.
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Big fan of SG-1. Season 2 is really where the show hit its stride. Should have ended at season 7 because that's where they intended to end it. Quit at 8 because I just couldn't do it. Replicators were garbage.
Wormhole X-treme was where it was at. Loved the credits section.
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Idk if I just got mentally poisoned by online haters but I absolutely hated the first couple episodes of SGU. SG-1 was a bit too flippant and low-stakes especially towards the end but SGU went way too hard on the drama way too early. It seemed like every single character had beef with another character almost from the moment they were introduced. By and large these aren't random people they're trained military and scientists expecting to step into the unknown on some level. There should be some modicum of professionalism. But less than 24 hours in they're already mutinying and going awol in a completely unknown environment. I didn't get much further tbf because the discs I had were scratched but it was not a good start from what I saw.
The replicators fell off when they introduced the whiny human form guy who was crushing on carter. Same mistake as Star Trek, they gave a human face to what should be a inherently inhuman force.
Speaking of Star Trek after SG-1 season 8 Stargate essentially becomes Star Trek lite. Earth gets teleporters and battleships that can hop between galaxies in a matter of weeks. Those Goa'uld pyramid ships get obliterated like its nothing. The power creep is insane.